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Slaying Bitcoin FUD: No-Coiner Skeptics

Bitcoin’s Intrinsic Value: Myth or Reality?

Bitcoin, the world’s most famous cryptocurrency, has inspired both ardent supporters and fierce skeptics. Those who reject it, known colloquially as “no-coiners,” often base their arguments on fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD). This lesson provides a fascinating exploration of these common objections, as explained through the perspective of a no-coiner. While these fears are understandable, a critical look reveals that most are grounded in misunderstanding rather than fact. This analysis is timely, given Bitcoin’s increasing relevance in global finance and its ability to challenge traditional economic norms.

We’ll dissect common no-coiner arguments—such as Bitcoin’s lack of “intrinsic value” and vulnerability to asset seizure—and explore how these critiques reflect deeper misconceptions about decentralized technology. As part of the Crypto Is FIRE (CFIRE) training program, this lesson will give you the tools to both understand and counteract the FUD that surrounds Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.


Bitcoin’s Resilience Intrinsic Value: Myth or Reality?

The core of this lesson is an examination of Bitcoin FUD through the lens of a no-coiner. Specifically, the lesson draws from a critique that encapsulates common fears about Bitcoin: that it has no intrinsic value, that it is vulnerable to seizure, and that its reliance on electricity makes it unsustainable. These fears are typical of many who resist Bitcoin, and they reflect a reluctance to engage with the technological nuances that make Bitcoin secure and valuable.

One striking point is the comment made by a skeptic about the seizure of $6 billion worth of Bitcoin by the U.S. government, suggesting that Bitcoin’s decentralization is a fantasy. The critic also mentions hyperinflation scenarios, suggesting that if electricity goes out, Bitcoin would become worthless. The lesson addresses these arguments head-on, providing evidence that Bitcoin is not only resilient but also often misunderstood by those entrenched in traditional finance. This lesson challenges newcomers to rethink their assumptions and dig deeper into how Bitcoin actually operates.


Critical Analysis

Strengths of the Video’s Arguments

  1. Bitcoin’s Resilience in a Power-Down Scenario
    One of the key strengths of the argument is the explanation that Bitcoin does not “disappear” when the power goes out. If there’s a global power outage, Bitcoin, stored on decentralized nodes across the world, remains intact. The moment power is restored anywhere, Bitcoin starts working again. This highlights the robustness of decentralized systems. In contrast, traditional financial systems would take far longer to recover after a catastrophic event, as they rely on centralized databases and institutions. The idea that Bitcoin can survive global shocks is a testament to its design.

    • Supporting Data: Historical evidence shows that decentralized systems (like Bitcoin) are more resilient in times of crisis compared to centralized systems. For example, during the Cypriot financial crisis in 2013, citizens were unable to access their bank accounts for days, while Bitcoin transactions continued globally without disruption.
  2. Private Key Security
    The lesson emphasizes that Bitcoin can only be seized if someone gains access to your private keys, which are essentially the password to your Bitcoin wallet. This provides a layer of security that traditional assets, such as gold or cash, simply cannot match. Unlike a safe deposit box that can be physically confiscated, Bitcoin can be secured across multiple geographical locations using multi-signature (multi-sig) technology, making it nearly impossible to seize. This is a powerful point, highlighting the advantages of decentralized security over traditional forms of wealth storage.

    • Why This Is Important: In a world where governments have the ability to freeze bank accounts and seize assets, Bitcoin offers a form of wealth that is significantly more resistant to centralized control.
  3. Bitcoin’s Intrinsic Value Debate
    The video tackles the claim that Bitcoin has no intrinsic value—a common refrain among skeptics. It’s true that Bitcoin does not have physical utility like gold, but its intrinsic value lies in its decentralized network, which allows for secure, peer-to-peer transactions without intermediaries. This is a new kind of value proposition that goes beyond the traditional understanding of value, which is often tied to physical assets or government-backed currencies. Bitcoin derives its worth from the trust and security of its underlying blockchain technology, which has been tested and proven over more than a decade.

    • Supporting Argument: Just as fiat currency’s value is based on trust in governments, Bitcoin’s value is based on trust in its technology and the mathematical certainty of its limited supply.

Potential Weaknesses and Limitations

  1. The Electricity Dependency Argument
    While the explanation about Bitcoin’s resilience in the event of a global blackout is compelling, it glosses over a critical point: Bitcoin’s mining process is indeed energy-intensive. The lesson could have acknowledged that Bitcoin’s energy consumption is a valid concern, particularly in a world moving toward renewable energy sources. However, what is often overlooked is that Bitcoin miners are increasingly using renewable energy, and its overall energy consumption is a small fraction of global energy use.

    • Counterpoint: The broader financial system also requires enormous energy—think of the global banking infrastructure, from ATMs to data centers. Thus, singling out Bitcoin for its energy use without considering the bigger picture is misleading.
  2. Challenges with Seizing Bitcoin
    While it’s true that Bitcoin can be securely stored using private keys, there’s a flip side to this argument: losing your private keys means losing access to your Bitcoin forever. This is a significant risk for newcomers who may not fully understand how to protect their keys. Traditional financial systems, despite their drawbacks, offer some recourse for lost or stolen funds through insurance or government intervention. Bitcoin’s finality in this regard could be viewed as both a strength and a weakness.

    • Alternative Viewpoint: While Bitcoin’s self-sovereignty is empowering, it requires a level of personal responsibility that not everyone is prepared to handle.

Connections to Cryptocurrency and Blockchain

Applying the Lesson to DeFi

The lesson’s focus on security and decentralization has direct parallels with the world of Decentralized Finance (DeFi). In DeFi, users interact with smart contracts on the blockchain, eliminating the need for intermediaries like banks or brokers. This creates a system where your assets are truly yours, just like in Bitcoin. However, this also means that users must take responsibility for their security—just as Bitcoin holders must safeguard their private keys.

  • Example: In the DeFi ecosystem, platforms like Aave or Compound allow users to lend and borrow cryptocurrencies without needing a bank. This mirrors Bitcoin’s decentralized ethos, offering financial services without intermediaries but also requiring the user to manage their own security.

The Role of Multi-Sig in DeFi

The multi-sig technology mentioned in the lesson is increasingly being adopted in DeFi projects as well. Multi-sig wallets, which require multiple parties to sign off on a transaction, add an extra layer of security. For example, DAOs (Decentralized Autonomous Organizations) often use multi-sig wallets to control their treasury funds, ensuring that no single party can run off with the money.

  • Challenge: The decentralized nature of DeFi, while offering security, also introduces risks. Smart contract bugs or exploits can lead to the loss of funds, and once a transaction is executed on the blockchain, it cannot be reversed. This requires users to balance trust in technology with an understanding of the potential risks.

Broader Implications and Future Outlook

Shaping the Future of Finance

The points raised in this lesson reflect broader trends in the evolution of finance. As the world shifts from centralized systems controlled by governments and banks to decentralized networks powered by blockchain technology, Bitcoin stands at the forefront of this transformation. The criticisms leveled by no-coiners often stem from a reluctance to adapt to this changing paradigm, but the momentum is undeniable.

  • Potential Societal Impacts: As more people adopt cryptocurrencies and DeFi, traditional financial institutions may become less relevant. This could lead to greater financial autonomy for individuals, particularly in countries where access to banking is limited. However, it also raises questions about regulation, security, and the role of governments in a decentralized world.

Predictions for the Future

Based on the arguments presented, one prediction is clear: Bitcoin will continue to gain value as more people realize its potential as a store of wealth, particularly in times of economic uncertainty. Additionally, the continued growth of the DeFi ecosystem suggests that decentralized financial systems may one day rival traditional banking, offering a more inclusive and transparent alternative.

  • Influence of Emerging Technologies: Technologies such as layer 2 scaling solutions and privacy-enhancing protocols could address some of the current limitations of Bitcoin and blockchain technology, making these systems even more attractive for mainstream adoption.

Personal Commentary and Insights

Having worked extensively in both traditional finance and blockchain technology, I’ve seen firsthand how disruptive decentralized systems can be. The skepticism expressed by no-coiners reminds me of the early days of the internet, when many dismissed it as a fad. Today, the internet is essential to nearly every aspect of our lives, and I believe Bitcoin will follow a similar path.

  • Unique Insight: What strikes me most is the shift in power dynamics. In the traditional financial world, you are always at the mercy of intermediaries. With Bitcoin, you hold the keys—literally and figuratively—to your own wealth. This is not just a technological shift; it’s a philosophical one that challenges long-held assumptions about money and power.

Conclusion

This lesson reveals the depth of misunderstanding that fuels Bitcoin FUD, but it also highlights the strength and resilience of decentralized technologies. The skepticism of no-coiners, while understandable, often falls short when examined through the lens of Bitcoin’s actual design and security features. For newcomers to crypto, the key takeaway is simple: don’t be swayed by surface-level criticisms. Dive deeper, explore

the technology, and understand the profound implications of decentralization. As you continue your journey through the CFIRE training program, you’ll gain the tools to navigate this space with confidence and insight, unlocking the true potential of Bitcoin and blockchain technology.

Quotes

  • “Bitcoin, unlike traditional systems, simply waits for the power to return—highlighting the strength of decentralization.”
  • “Private keys offer a level of security that traditional assets cannot match. With Bitcoin, you control your wealth.”
  • “Bitcoin is not just a technological shift; it’s a philosophical one, challenging the very concept of money and power.”

Continue on to the next lesson in the CFIRE program, where we explore the exciting world of multi-sig wallets and their role in enhancing security in the crypto ecosystem!

 

 

Slaying Bitcoin FUD: Peering into the Mind of a No-Coiner

In this lesson, we dive into the mindset of a “no-coiner”—someone skeptical about Bitcoin, often due to misconceptions and fear-driven narratives known as FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt). We’ll break down common concerns that fuel this skepticism and clarify how Bitcoin addresses these issues. Understanding these objections is vital for those in the crypto space, as it equips you with the knowledge to counteract misinformation and reinforce the legitimacy of decentralized finance (DeFi).

As part of the Crypto Is FIRE (CFIRE) training, this lesson will prepare you to navigate through common objections with a sense of confidence, making you better equipped to handle FUD whenever you encounter it. Let’s explore the deeper layers of Bitcoin, its strengths, and how it holds its ground in both hypothetical and real-world challenges.


Core Concepts

  1. FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt)

    • Traditional Finance: FUD refers to spreading fear to manipulate markets or create uncertainty about the value of an asset. It often affects stock prices and economic confidence.
    • Crypto: FUD is rampant in the crypto world, especially when Bitcoin’s decentralized nature threatens the established financial order. Newcomers must learn to identify and critically assess FUD.
  2. Intrinsic Value

    • Traditional Finance: Intrinsic value is the perceived or calculated value of an asset, based on its fundamentals, such as cash flow or physical utility.
    • Crypto: Critics often argue that Bitcoin has no intrinsic value. However, Bitcoin’s value comes from its decentralization, security, and the trustless system it enables.
  3. Private Keys

    • Traditional Finance: In traditional finance, account numbers and passwords protect your funds.
    • Crypto: Private keys are your access to Bitcoin. If someone gains access to your keys, they control your Bitcoin. Multi-signature (multi-sig) wallets can provide additional security.
  4. Seizure of Assets

    • Traditional Finance: Governments can freeze or seize traditional assets like bank accounts, real estate, and gold.
    • Crypto: While Bitcoin can be seized if your private keys are compromised, it is far harder to seize than most other assets, especially with proper security measures like cold storage.
  5. Hyperinflation

    • Traditional Finance: Hyperinflation occurs when fiat currency loses its value rapidly, causing prices to skyrocket. Historically, assets like gold or real estate are seen as safe havens.
    • Crypto: Bitcoin is often considered a hedge against hyperinflation due to its capped supply of 21 million coins, making it resistant to devaluation by inflation.

Key Sections

1. FUD and Skepticism in Traditional Finance and Crypto

  • Key Points:

    • FUD influences markets by creating unnecessary fear.
    • Common criticisms of Bitcoin often stem from a lack of understanding.
    • Bitcoin is targeted by skeptics who resist its decentralized nature.
  • Detailed Explanation: FUD plays a huge role in shaping how people react to new technologies like Bitcoin. Traditional finance experiences this too—think about how news of a looming economic crisis can trigger a stock market crash. In the crypto world, FUD is often more direct, with sensational headlines about Bitcoin’s volatility, its supposed connection to crime, or its environmental impact. For those new to crypto, recognizing FUD is a critical skill to avoid making fear-based decisions.

  • Crypto Connection: Bitcoin was designed to operate independently of centralized institutions. When FUD circulates, often it’s because these institutions feel threatened by Bitcoin’s potential to decentralize power. For example, hyperinflation is a real concern in the traditional world, where governments can print money at will. Bitcoin’s fixed supply makes it a powerful alternative, as its scarcity protects it from inflation.


2. The Importance of Private Keys and Security in Bitcoin

  • Key Points:

    • Private keys grant access to your Bitcoin holdings.
    • Improper storage of keys can lead to theft or seizure.
    • Multi-sig wallets offer an extra layer of security.
  • Detailed Explanation: Just as passwords protect your bank account, private keys protect your Bitcoin. If you store your private keys online, they’re vulnerable to hacks, much like leaving your bank PIN in a public file. This makes cold storage—keeping your keys offline—an essential practice for serious Bitcoin holders. Multi-signature wallets, which require multiple private keys to authorize transactions, add another layer of security, reducing the risk of theft or seizure.

  • Crypto Connection: In traditional finance, the seizure of assets is relatively straightforward. Governments can freeze bank accounts or confiscate property. With Bitcoin, seizure is much harder because it’s decentralized, and your private keys are the only link to your funds. The right security practices make Bitcoin one of the hardest assets to seize.


3. Seizure of Bitcoin vs. Traditional Assets

  • Key Points:

    • Governments can seize assets like bank accounts and gold.
    • Bitcoin can only be seized if private keys are compromised.
    • Storing keys offline or using multi-sig makes Bitcoin nearly seizure-proof.
  • Detailed Explanation: Traditional financial systems rely on centralized control. Your savings in the bank can be frozen with a simple court order. Gold, often seen as a store of value, can also be seized. Bitcoin, however, flips the script. Without your private keys, no one can access your Bitcoin. Even in cases where governments have seized Bitcoin (as with the Silk Road or Bitfinex hacks), it was only possible because the private keys were stored carelessly online.


4. Bitcoin’s Role in Hyperinflation Scenarios

  • Key Points:

    • Traditional safe-haven assets include gold, real estate, and land.
    • Bitcoin offers a digital alternative due to its fixed supply.
    • In extreme scenarios, like hyperinflation, Bitcoin provides portability and security.
  • Detailed Explanation: Historically, when fiat currencies collapse due to hyperinflation, people turn to tangible assets like gold or real estate. However, gold is heavy and hard to transport, and real estate is immobile. Bitcoin offers a new option—an asset that is portable, easily divisible, and not subject to inflationary pressures. In a crisis, Bitcoin’s digital nature makes it easy to transport across borders without detection, offering protection against devaluation.


Real-World Applications

The transcript references the seizure of Bitcoin by governments, which is an important case study. The US government has confiscated Bitcoin in criminal cases, but this is only possible due to carelessness in key management. If the private keys are secured using multi-sig wallets, such seizures become nearly impossible.

In contrast, consider the 2008 financial crisis, where people lost access to their savings when banks collapsed. Bitcoin’s decentralization ensures that such failures won’t lock users out of their funds.


Challenges and Solutions

  • Challenge: One of the biggest fears is that Bitcoin can be seized by the government.

    • Solution: Proper key management, such as using cold storage and multi-sig wallets, makes it nearly impossible for anyone to seize your Bitcoin without your consent.
  • Challenge: Many believe Bitcoin lacks intrinsic value.

    • Solution: Understanding that Bitcoin’s value lies in its network effects, decentralization, and security can help overcome this misconception.

Key Takeaways

  1. FUD is a real force in both traditional finance and crypto. Don’t let it cloud your judgment—do your research and understand the facts.
  2. Private keys are your lifeline to Bitcoin. If you lose them, you lose your Bitcoin. Prioritize security.
  3. Seizure of Bitcoin is far more difficult than traditional assets, provided you store your private keys securely.
  4. Bitcoin’s fixed supply makes it a strong hedge against hyperinflation, unlike fiat currencies that can be printed endlessly.
  5. Multi-sig wallets offer a powerful tool for securing your Bitcoin against theft or seizure.

Discussion Questions and Scenarios

  1. What is FUD, and how can you identify when it’s influencing market sentiment in crypto?
  2. Compare the security of a traditional bank account with that of a Bitcoin wallet using private keys.
  3. How might hyperinflation impact traditional assets like gold and real estate compared to Bitcoin?
  4. What are the advantages of Bitcoin’s decentralized nature in protecting against government asset seizures?
  5. How would you explain Bitcoin’s intrinsic value to someone skeptical of digital currencies?

Additional Resources and Next Steps

  1. “Mastering Bitcoin” by Andreas Antonopoulos – An essential guide for understanding the technical underpinnings of Bitcoin.
  2. The Bitcoin Standard by Saifedean Ammous – A great resource for understanding Bitcoin’s place in economic history.
  3. Blockstream Green Wallet – A beginner-friendly, secure wallet to explore private key management and multi-sig.

Next up in the CFIRE training plan, we’ll dive deeper into multi-sig technology and how it can help protect your Bitcoin holdings. Let’s keep building that foundation toward becoming a crypto expert!


Glossary

  • FUD: Fear, uncertainty, and doubt, often used to manipulate markets or public opinion.
  • Intrinsic Value: The underlying value of an asset based on its tangible or intangible factors.
  • Private Key: A cryptographic key that allows access to a cryptocurrency wallet.
  • Multi-Sig Wallet: A wallet that requires multiple signatures to authorize transactions.
  • Hyperinflation: An extremely rapid and out-of-control rise in inflation, causing the

    currency to lose value.


By now, you should have a clearer understanding of how Bitcoin holds up against common criticisms. Stay sharp, keep learning, and dive into the next lesson to fortify your crypto knowledge!

 

 

 

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 So a couple of months ago, I made this video, What Happens to  Stocks and Real Estate in Hyperinflation. And I think something I said in there  rubbed Michael Dalton 8374 the wrong way. And this was his comment. $6 billion worth of Bitcoin  was seized by the US government in March to think it as independent as fantasy. In a hyperinflationary  scenario, no electricity means no access. Intrinsic value cannot be maintained if flicking the power switch ends it. So allow me to translate.
 When I get comments like this that use a whole bunch of FUD at once, this is what I hear.  I hear someone saying, I’m getting increasingly annoyed hearing about this Bitcoin thing.  I don’t understand a single thing about Bitcoin, but I’m unwilling to do any real work to try to  understand even the very basics of how it works.
 Therefore, I will collect a bunch of different excuses garnered by skimming headlines in the mainstream media that I can dump on anyone  when they mention this Bitcoin thing. So this is what I would say to my dear brother in arms,  Daniel. You are correct. Electricity is very important to our modern world. And if the  electricity goes off and stays off globally, we have some very, very big problems on our hands.  And Bitcoin is probably the least of them.
 And I would say to Daniel that it’s quite likely that he is not prepared for a scenario  like this either.  If the electricity goes down and stays down forever, lots of things will obviously stop  working, like Daniel’s well, his electric pump, his filtration system, assuming he’s  doing something sort of off-grid here,  his bank’s ATM, his phone, his entire online life.
 And even if Daniel were to be completely off-grid  and have gold bars and silver coins, I don’t think he or anyone is really prepared for the  social unrest and the global crime that would sweep across the world if the electricity went  down and stayed down. But here’s the thing about Bitcoin. There  are copies of the Bitcoin blockchain in every country on earth on all of the nodes that are  running them. The Bitcoin blockchain does not get erased when the power goes off.
 Instead,  it just sits there patiently, waits for the power to come back on anywhere in the world,  and then it starts working instantly. Unlike the banking system, which would take weeks or months  or even years to get up and running again. This is always the weird thing about gold bugs. Why is it that  most gold bugs’ chief reason for hodling gold is that human civilization is going to be plunged  into permanent darkness? Even if that were to happen, there are many, many assets that I would  want to own before precious metals. I’d want to own land, some sort of garden,
 water or well with a hand pump  in case the electricity wasn’t working,  and also tools of self-defense, these sort of things.  So I think it makes sense, actually,  if you have gold and you’re preparing in this way,  sell your gold, buy Bitcoin,  and buy real-world essentials like these.  If you’re enjoying this video so far,  I just ask you to hit the subscribe button,  hit the like button, leave a comment, question, suggestion for a future topic, and also share  this video with a friend. What about the rest of Daniel’s comments? $6 billion worth of Bitcoin
 was seized by the US government in March. To think it is independent is fantasy. I would say this is  another example of sloppy thinking because whether Bitcoin is independent, decentralized, et cetera, is one question. And the answer to that, of course, is yes.  What Daniel is saying though here, and he’s confusing the two things, is Bitcoin, can it  be seized? That is a separate question.
 And the answer to that is yes, your Bitcoin can be seized  if you store your private keys online, whether on a cloud server, as we’re about to see in a later example, in a digital photo,  in an email, on Evernote, on Google Drive, anywhere like this. And if someone finds those keys,  they can then do a transaction, sign that transaction with those keys, and move your  Bitcoin to a Bitcoin address that they control and that you no longer control.
 Your Bitcoin can  also be seized if you give someone your private keys, your recovery seed, whether under stress or threat of torture, etc. And it is true criminals and  governments can selectively attack people and try to take their keys, but they cannot do this to  millions and millions of people. It’s just not practical.
 It’s also really difficult for them  to do this to you if you’re using multi-sig to secure your Bitcoin and your private keys are geographically dispersed. So I would ask Michael Dalton,  where are you storing your savings? And is it actually more secure than Bitcoin? Your safe  deposit box can be seized.
 And in a real crisis, the banks would close and stay closed for many  months or years. Your brokerage account or bank account can obviously be frozen. The government  or other criminals can march into your house and rip it apart to find your gold and silver quite easily.  Also, asset forfeiture laws allow governments to seize your house and land. So the question for  Michael is, are any of these savings vehicles less prone to seizure than Bitcoin? No, they’re  absolutely not. Can you take any of these savings vehicles, Daniel, with you to a new country if you need to? Nope, you can’t do that either. Good luck crossing the
 border with your pockets full of silver coins. This just will never work. Meanwhile, Bitcoiners  can go anywhere in the world and take a billion dollars worth of Bitcoin in a brain wallet and  no one even knows what they’re carrying in their brain. I think what Daniel is referring to in his comment is various articles like this. U.S.
 government has $5 billion worth  of Bitcoin. This was thanks to some analysis done by At21Co and they were able to guess what  various amounts of Bitcoin are being held by the U.S. government. We have the Silk Road seizure.  are being held by the US government. We have the Silk Road seizure,  we have the Bitfinex hack seizure,  and the James Zhang seizure.
 And if you add these up,  you end up with roughly almost 200,000 Bitcoin  that are currently valued at 6.7 billion.  So Bitcoin of course keeps going up to Daniel’s dismay  and the value of the government’s Bitcoin  keeps going up as well.  But this was indeed seized.  We can just look at one example. I’ve covered these other examples before. Fed seized $3.
6  billion in Bitcoin stolen from the Bitfinex hack. So Bitfinex is a cryptocurrency exchange that was  hacked in August of 2016 and 119,756 Bitcoin were taken.  And then the US government was able to find  the people who took it.  It was Ilya Lichtenstein and his wife, Heather R. Morgan.  Funny thing about Heather, she’s also known as Ra’s al Khan.
 We covered this a few years back.  She’s probably the worst rapper of all time.  I’ll link to her video,  Versace Bedouin, in the description notes below.
 So how is the government, how is the US government able to take this Bitcoin from these people if Bitcoin cannot be seized? If we look at the report  from the Justice Department, on January 31st, 2022, law enforcement gained access to one of  these wallets by decrypting a file saved to  Ilya Lichtenstein’s cloud storage account, which had been obtained pursuant to a search warrant.  The file contained a list of 2000 virtual currency addresses, along with corresponding  private keys.
 So unfortunately for Ilya, who’s clearly a criminal as well, he was storing his  private keys in the cloud in an an encrypted file but if you’re  storing stuff online if you’re storing your private keys online at some point someone’s  going to find them and take your Bitcoin now what does the US government do when it gets this  Bitcoin it slowly auctions it off over time there’s a lot of fears that they’re going to suddenly dump  it and try to move down the price which would be wonderful because Bitcoin hodlers and the Bitcoin  faithful would step in and be able to buy bitcoin for five or ten or fifteen thousand dollars a coin i don’t think
 that’s going to happen but that is rather than being a nightmare scenario that’s actually would  be a wonderful scenario there is a interesting uh website that jameson lot put together on github  showing how much uh bitcoin the US government has seized over the  years. And they’ve auctioned almost all of this off.
 And he does a nice calculation here where  he has the total value that the US government has gained by selling this Bitcoin that they  confiscated from people. They’ve gained about $366 million. But the potential gains they missed if instead they had huddled is close to 6.3 6.4  billion dollars at some point the us government’s going to wake up and realize that it should be  huddling this stuff rather than selling it off finally the last sort of buzzword that  that michael dalton decided to throw into his comment was this idea of intrinsic value
 which is of course another critique of bitcoin that it doesn’t have any intrinsic value. This is something I talk about in this video. That’s a whole  different rabbit hole, but you can tell when people start throwing all these different ideas  together, they’re just trying to throw everything but the kitchen sink at Bitcoin and hope that some  of it sticks.
 But I do discuss intrinsic value in this video, which I’ll link to in the  description notes below. If I had to guess, I would guess that Michael Dalton is probably a gold bug and this has not been a good decade for  them not only are gold bugs aging out but they’re also dropping out of the game as their purchasing  power evaporates against Bitcoin if you’re holding significant amounts of your net worth in gold and  silver this is something you have to understand because unfortunately you’re going to continue  to get poorer relative to people who own Bitcoin this is a chart of gold denominated in bitcoin it’s just completely gone
 off a cliff and it will continue to go off a cliff as bitcoin demonetizes gold here’s the other thing  which i’ve talked about before how many millennials and gen z will keep their parents gold when they  inherit it i would say very very few most will dump it for Bitcoin or lesser tokens.  And we’re seeing this because gold’s demographics  are absolutely terrible,  even in places that really love their gold, like India.
 I’ll link to this article, even from 2018,  and I think it’s gotten worse since then.  Indians are falling out of love with gold  and millennials are partly to blame.  The younger generation is more focused  on buying smartphones than gold.
 
Advice to No-Coiners – Michael Saylor (Once in a lifetime opportunity) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPVkCQAYBA0
Transcript:
 Look, I think Bitcoin is a bank in cyberspace.  It’s, you know, and your choices are you save your money in a traditional conventional fiat bank and you’re going to watch your purchasing power dwindle down over the next decade to the point where it’ll buy nothing.  Or you can gamble in the stock market that’s maybe rigged against you, then you’ll be buying companies that are generating cash flows  and fiat currency that is collapsing in value.
 So even if you think you’ve avoided the problem  of currency weakening of storing your money in a bank, you haven’t really, because if you’re  buying real estate bonds or stocks that also generate fiat currency and that currency is  collapsing in value, you’ve got the same problem.
 Now you have generate fiat currency and that currency is collapsing in value you’ve  got the same problem it’s a now you have a fiat derivative or you can uh save your monetary energy  save your purchasing power and your wealth and bitcoin which is not a fiat derivative that is  not collapsing in value that is going to appreciate against all these other currencies as they collapse in value  and you don’t have to gamble on whether or not apple will ship a good iphone 14 or you know the  next generation of this product or that product or this service or what that government will do to
 this company and what that ceo will do all very complicated anxiety inducing. Bitcoin is a simple thing, right? You’re buying  into a thermodynamically sound engineered monetary network, the first workable monetary network in  the history of the world, first digital monetary network in the history of the world.